Announcements - Joe Prince wins Best Game for the 2G1N competition

Posted by: Sebastian Hickey On: Dec 7th 2009

Just a quick well done to Joe Prince for his winning entry, "Hell 4 Leather," in Nathan Paoletta's Two Games One Name competition. It was tight, elegant and stylish. Well done!

Posted by: Gregor Hutton On: Dec 7th 2009

The winners thread is here.

Well done, Joe.

Posted by: Joe Prince On: Dec 7th 2009

Thanks guys!

I really wasn't expecting to win - it made my day.

I'd upload my entry for all to see again, but the new site won't let me...

Posted by: Andrew Kenrick On: Dec 7th 2009 edited

Congratulations Joe! Any plans for the game?

Same goes for you Sebastian? You planning on carrying on work on the game?

Posted by: Gregor Hutton On: Dec 8th 2009

Here it is.

Posted by: Sebastian Hickey On: Dec 8th 2009

Hi Andrew,

I'm planning on a print in April. On the super good news side of things, George Cotronis is doing the new cover artwork for Hell for Leather, and Jason Hickey is illustrating the interior. I'm writing up the third draft of the text this week, and I hope to get the layout ready for the art pass by the end of the following week. It's all busy business, and things are looking bright.

There are some wicked, super unbelievable playtesting events on the way too, but I'm going to keep my mouth shut on those until I get final confirmation. I don't want to jinx it. As soon as I get some feedback, I'll spread the news.

I'll have some layout issues to address soon, so maybe you guys could help me out on those if you've got the stomach for it? I'll start another thread next week.


Posted by: Andrew Kenrick On: Dec 9th 2009

Fire away!

Posted by: Joe Prince On: Dec 9th 2009

I could do with playing the game -seeing how it fares! Then I'll decide if publishing it is the way forward. Cheers for the link Gregor.

I talked to Sebastian about the possibility of putting out both Hell For Leathers in one volume - I'm keen to hear what people would make of that?

Posted by: Malcolm Craig On: Dec 9th 2009

To my mind a combined volume containing both games is the perfect way to go. It seems to suit the ethos and aims of the context. Perhaps it could be done in the 'upside down' style of printing, where both games have front covers, but on opposite sides of the book, so the both look the front of the game.

if that makes any sense. I've certainly seen paperbacks, and some games, done like this.

Oh, and well done Joe (belatedly)!


Posted by: Andrew Kenrick On: Dec 9th 2009

That was my thought too - have one at the back and one at the front, each with their own cover.

Posted by: Iain McAllister On: Dec 9th 2009

Putting both books in one volume sounds great, and sticks to the spirit of the contest.

Well done mate.



Posted by: George Cotronis On: Dec 10th 2009

Don't Lose Your Mind kinda did that and I think it worked great.

Posted by: Andrew Kenrick On: Dec 10th 2009

Although DLYM hid a whole rules section in between the two parts that I didn't discover till quite recently... A bit too clever for its own good!

Posted by: Gregor Hutton On: Dec 16th 2009

Oh, I have a contrary opinion. I don't like these right-way-up-oh-noes-upside-down books. The format isn't ideal for me for a book that isn't playing with its reader's mind. You get an indistinct sense of what the book looks like on a shelf too. As a consumer who has only seen the book at a distance I know I'm looking for a book that looks like this but my eye scans across the reverse of the book without discovering it, because it looks like a different front. Where is it? Oh, it's got two front covers and no back cover... OK. Maybe I'm precious about that or wrong, who knows?

And my preference would be for multiple formats too (if it were me). I think they can easily be books on their own. I also think they can happily be bundled together with a foreword by Nathan Paoletta, say, and be a desired format for those that want both games. I imagine the games we be one after the other with their own covers as "chapterheads". They might even have commentary on them at the end. Maybe different page ornaments too, so that the pages are distinct for each game. I think those buying in that format would also have a high probability of buying them on their own. I'd also love to see a deluxe box with both books in it and dice, tarot cards and so on.

I'd also, given the length of the games, like to see them in a format like paperback sized. I know I've banged the drum on that one for Dead of Night 2. But I think it's less bulky than digest but not so finicky as Dead of Night's current size.

I played Joe's Hell For Leather last night and it was great. I look forward to Sebastian's at WarpCon. You'll be there, right?

Posted by: Sebastian Hickey On: Dec 19th 2009

Hi Gregor,

Yes, I will be at WarpCon. I'm running a playtest with the WARPS guys the night before it kicks off. I didn't know you were attending, so that's a hugely pleasant surprise. I guess I'll see you there.

Merry Chrimbo,


Posted by: Gregor Hutton On: Dec 19th 2009

If I don't go to Cork this year then they send the bad people to see me.

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